Grüße aus Teheran (Fight 3, Stage 2, Room G)
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Grüße aus Teheran (Fight 3, Stage 2, Room G)
The large poster where we collected the participant’s signatures (“the wall”) has now finally arrived at its distination, so I could take a nice photo.
At the closing ceremony we showed the Turkish flag when there was supposed to be the flag of China.
Wolfgang fixed this in a few seconds.
I have full understanding for anyone to be angry about this error. I myself am angry that we did not check each other’s work carefully enough to spot this.
However I have no understanding at all for the rumors that this might have been in any way deliberate. I cannot think of a reason that would make any of us do such a terrible thing.
I personally tried really hard not to offend anyone. I even went so far as to create our own flag for the team of Chinese Taipei because I thought that this was the solution closest to the one that everyone can live with at the Olympic Games (the flag they use there has the rings inside, which I replaced with the IYPT logo). Sadly the Photographer who did the team photos couldn’t find it and didn’t ask, so he used a different flag on that picture.
There is a “law” called Hanlon’s Razor that states: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” This is exactly what happened here.
To stop any more rumors, I’d like to give the simple explanation why this happened:
At this year’s AYPT there was a team from Turkey.
Just like the year before, Wolfgang had created a presentation with slides that show the team’s name, a flag, the team-members and how many points they received.
At the IYPT it was again his task to create such a presentation. He started with the files (e.g. the flags) from the last AYPT. It was a very hectic time, everyone of us had so much to prepare, so when he added the flag for china, he instead added another red flag that was in the same folder – the one from Turkey.
Immediately after the incident Wolfgang and Ricky personally apologized to as many Chinese team-members, jurors, IOC members and volunteers they could find. All of them accepted our sincere apologies.
I am deeply sorry for this, and I hope that you can forgive us for this error and for all the smaller ones as well.
I’m uploading more photos right now. Takes ages, since I’m uploading at full resolution and don’t have the upload bw I used to have at TU Vienna.
Team Photos are already up.
To ease the pain of having to wait: here’s the presentation with photos i made for the closing ceremony.
update: Day 4 and 5 are up, but I didn’t get many pictures for day 5 (trip to melk). But don’t worry, Peter Schatz took many photos there, I’ll add those later.
Uploading Day 6 will take about 8 hours (yes, my connection is pretty lame here at home).
update: Now Day 6 is online with lots of photos from the finals, the closing ceremony and the farewell party.
Those are all the photos (more than 1300 by the way) I was able to collect so far. You’r welcome to send more to firstname.lastname@example.org .
update: as in the previous years John Balcombe has some photos from the IYPT.
The final of the 23rd IYPT has just started. President Allinson in introducing the jurors right now. I will continue updating this blog post so you can get some real time info from the final.
Now the team from Singapore has started their report on Problem 14: Magnetic Spring.
The “Kuppelsaal” of the TU Vienna is pretty full, about 300 people are watching the final.
I am uploading some pictures from day 3 to the gallery now. Pictures from our trip to Melk and from the finals will be added later.
Opponent Bernhard Zatloukal is asking about eddy currents, longer magnets and the motion equation and possible errors. Is it possible to model this with a spring constant? What’s the torque on the magnet? What’s the force on the magnets?
President Allinson is asking the audience for some silence while the team of Austria prepares their Opponence. Obviously there’s a lot to talk about
A very vivid discussion. The Opponent tries to find flaws with the reporter’s work. However the team from Singapore shows solid work and the reporter is very well prepared.
Bernhard points that the model used is only an approximation. Both agree. In general there does not seem to be much, that the two teams do not agree on, both seam to have a very good understanding of the problem.
Korea, the Reviewer in this stage, is now asking questions to both the Reporter and the Opponent.
We now are hearing some questions from the jury.
The grading of stage 1 (in no way official, this is just to give you an impression on how the teams are doing. and to stress this once again: this marks are not official at all)
Reporter: 10 9 9 9 8 9 10 10 9 9
Opponent: 9 9 8 8 8 8 7 8 8 8
Reviewer: 8 9 8 8 7 8 9 8 9 8
Andrii Lazariev explains his rather low grading (8, 8, 7) – he wants to point out that doesn’t vote higher just because it’s the finals.
Samuel Byland explains the 7 for the Opponent: The Opponent at times seamed overwhelmed by the reporter’s vast knowledge.
Yung-Yuan Hsu explains his 10 to for the reporter: Everything was logical.
I just double checked the marks with our fight assistant Andreas. Still don’t consider anything official until I put it on our website iypt.at
The break is over and the Team of Austria is preparing their experiment.
Michael Scherbela is giving his Report on Problem 1 Electromagnetic cannon.
After about 9 minutes Michael shows us the experiment which they built based on their theoretical considerations on what the perfect parameters for the cannon would be.
After 11 Minutes and 22 Seconds the report is over. Now we’re waiting for the opponent from Korea to prepare.
In the meantime I have updated the participants’ pictures in our gallery. It’s a dump from our database from some days ago – so this now includes everyone that we have a picture of. Sadly while the Australians’ mascot Schrödinger made it into our DB soon enough, Ernie Rutherford from the team of NZ was only added yesterday. Both now have an official IYPT2010 badge.
Now we see the Reporter and the Opponent doing live experiments. That’s true IYPT spirit!
We just heard the Reviewer’s questions and the volume in the audience is rising yet again. Waiting for the president so calm everyone down again
The reviewer wasn’t able to connect the projector in time. This happens a lot and is very frustrating – however most of the time it’s a software problem that we cannot do anything about.
Jennifer Randle of the team of NZ nevertheless does not seam to be nervous at all (though I am quite sure she is) despite any technical problems and presents a solid review.
Michael very passionately gives his concluding remarks: “I really kinda fell in love with this problem!” And once more fires the cannon.
Juror Valentin Lobyshev asks about increasing the capacitor, e.g. a few hundred times.
John Balcombe asks the Reporter what exactly he was trying to optimize: Velocity.
Martin Plesch asks about how theory and experiments fit together.
Samuel Byland wants to see the slides on the optimization again. Why was the length of the plunger kept constant?
ChuanYong Li asks for the maximum speed – about 10 m/s for the plunger.
Time is up, so heres the grading:
Reporter: 8 8 8 7 9 8 9 9 8 9
Opponent: 8 9 8 7 8 8 8 9 7 7
Reviewer: 8 9 8 7 7 7 8 8 7 7
Valentin Lobyshev makes a comment: Problem is dynamic. You mixed everything. Dynamic and static. There is no dynamic for the piston. Nobody talked about it. If you increase the capacity plus 100 times – answer is absolutely wrong from everybody!
Martin Plesch disagrees with Valentin: I have a different view. If you adjust all parameters you get higher energy and therefore higher velocity. Martin only missed one thing and therefore didn’t give a 10: he would have liked the team to perform some experimental optimization around the theoretical maximum found.
Dong Jin Ji from the team of Korea presents Problem 15 Paper anemometer.
Later we will hear New Zealand Teammember Tony Yuen as Opponent and Zi Yang Kang from Singapore as Reviewer.
They are using audio samples of their experiment. We could have used the room’s audio system line in. But no one asked… so now they hold the microphone close to their Laptop’s speaker.
Could someone brng me some food? I am getting hungry.
The Opponent asks about definitions. I still remember that from last year, it’s something the Kiwis always do So: How do you define a fluid?
Tony has taken the stage, the projector works fine, we’ve changed the vga cable, just to make sure everything works now.
I’m about to add a picture of my view. Soon after the finals high quality pictures will be online. An in a few days or weeks we’ll have a movie by Peter Schatz who has been filming the Austrian team’s preparation, most of their fights, our trip to Melk yesterday and now the finals.
Now Reporter and Opponent are working on their theories on the flip chart. Lots of talk about Reynold’s Numbers.
Tony now asks about humidity. The Reporter does not think, that this is an important parameter. (I’d like to also use the Reporter’s first name, but I heard somewhere that they use their names differently, and i dont want to upset anyone.)
Now Alan has to stop the discussion. We are waiting for the Reviewers questions.
It’s very refreshing that now teams (especially those in the finals) understand that the review isn’t just about telling the Reporter that his English was good and the presentation’s layout nicely done. It’s not the International Young Powerpoint-Users Tournament after all
Wolfgang just brought something to eat. I’ll try to multitask
Concluding remarks: The reporter points out why he thinks his model is correct.
Questions from the jury:
John Balcombe: Is the stiffness of the paper an important parameter?
Martin: What angle do you use, if the paper forms a wave.
Francisco Swaminathan: For what ranges is this correct, what happens outside the plotted range
Andrii Lazariev: lift force: what happens if we set alpha to 90°?
Answer: Stall. The given formula does not work in that case.
Reporter: 7 8 7 8 7 7 8 6 7 6
Opponent: 8 9 8 8 8 8 8 7 8 8
Reviewer: 9 9 8 8 8 9 8 9 10 9
Martin Plesch explains his low grading: The theory was too simplified. A stiff body (which is used for the model) does not behave like paper.
Fabian Bühler: He agrees with Martin about the weak report. The Opponent didn’t address any of the reporter’s shortcomings.
Balcombe: He explains that he gave a 10 because the Reviewer did a good job identifying weaknesses. What more could they have done? Nothing – that’s why they got a 10 from John Balcombe.
The final stage of the IYPT2010 finals:
If the team of NZ had told us that they had special light requirements we would have been able to work something out. But hey, the IYPT is all about improvisation.
I think it’s fine now, and I am looking forward to some brilliant patterns.
The lighting is still constantly changing. Is this the lamps warming up or is someone playing with the light switch? Investigate
The report reminds me of the last year’s final: Optical Tube was also an optical problem reported by NZ.
If you are waiting for the official, final results: This will take some time. We have do double check everything, no one wants errors in the final results.
You can of course use the rules of the IYPT to calculate the results based on my (very unofficial just to stress that again) gradings i posted here.
Now it’s time for the last Opponent. And the audience is getting loud again. Alan?!
I think it’s kind of sad that out of the 20 finalists (4 teams with 5 members each) there is only one girl. A quick look in our DB tells me that about 30% of all participants (this includes jurors, volunteers and all teams) are female.
Only Austria included a live experiment. I really would have loved to see some more action on stage And don’t say that that’s because the other teams had to travel so far: last year team Austria brought a little Experiment for almost every Problem. Even a Skateboard
Martin Schnedlitz who is doing the Review just finished asking his questions to the Reporter and the Opponent. It’s time for preparations of the Reviewer and the audience is getting loud again.
It’s time for the finals to be over, because the air conditioning can’t really keep up with all the people, lights and computers in this room any more.
Reporter’s concluding remarks are done and now we’ll again have some jury questions:
Andrii Lazariev to reporter: One laser was not ideal so we get rings. If the others were ideal – it is a narrow parallel beam, what is the difference if we change the laser’s position?
Valentin Lobyshev to opponent and reviewer: What information do you want to get from the diffraction?
Francisco Swaminathan to the reporter: What is the wavelength of the laser beams?
Martin Plesch: Which part of the picture is due to impurities?
Samuel Byland: Would you expect any other interference?
Reporter: 7 8 8 9 7 7 7 8 8 7
Opponent: 7 9 8 7 8 8 8 8 8 8
Reviewer: 8 8 8 7 8 8 8 9 9 9
Comments by the jurors:
Valentin: I liked this report and [???] from my point of view it doesn’t have mistakes [???] maybe it is not so [???] (I couldn’t understand some of what Valentin was saying. I think he liked the report.)
Martin: No mistakes, but some things missing.
Alan just ended this last fight of the IYPT2010. Thanks to all my blog readers!
Singapore: 14 Magnetic Spring
Austria: 1 Electromagnetic cannon
Korea: 15 Paper anemometer
New Zealand: 2 Brilliant pattern
If you wonder why there are 4 teams in the final – the regulations state the following:
The three teams having the highest TSP in the Selective PFs participate in the Final. In case teams have equal TSP, their participation in the Final is decided by FW. If team(s) winning all their Selective PFs (FW=5) did not reach the Final by TSP, the best of them (determined by TSP) takes part in the final as fourth team.
Both New Zealand and Germany won all their PFs, but the team of New Zealand has the higher TSP.
TSP: The total sum of points (TSP) equals the sum of SP of the team in all Selective PFs.
The last IYPT final with four teams was in 1992.
update 6:10pm – added the problems the teams have choosen.
I’m sure you all know that feeling of „flow“ when work fades into play and time just flies away. I just had such a rare moment: Next to me there’s a computer-driven laser cutter. The original is pretty expensive, but this is the much cheaper Chinese version – just as cool, but the door doesn’t fully close and the software sucks. But hey: It’s a 50 watt laser. The task is to cut some medals for you guys. But hey, since I got my new laptop with me I had to engrave my name. Kind of strange, putting my Thinkpad under a laser that could easily cut through.
Tomorrow this machine will be at the science afternoon. And I’m sure the guys of HappyLab are cool enough to let you engrave your name on just about anything. Guarantee voided for sure if you cut through your iPhone – but hey, who cares
Visitor from Iran: “Can you say some words, why do we all meet here?”
IYPT President: “For coffee.”
Visitor from Iran: “No, here in Vienna, why do we meet?”
IYPT President: “Because they have very good coffee in Vienna!”
Ok, so the results for round 3 and the previews for round 4 are available now. And I heard something about another fire alarm at our hotel. Someone’s towel wet again? I mean, come on, are you still doing experiments on problem 12 or what?
Well, I’m glad that I still have to work at our office and my ears didn’t get hurt again.
update: I added Florian’s picture.
The good news: I’m awake again and I received new pictures and I’m adding them to day 1 & 2 right now.
The bad: Compiling and publishing the results didn’t work as smoothly as I had in mind. Groups with 4 teams naturally take much longer, so we worked until 2:30 pm on the results and previews. And having 300 people waiting makes you want to do this fast. Doing complicated tasks fast after a night without much sleep (thanks again to whoever triggered the fire alarm last night!) leads to errors. I’m sorry…
Well, now everything seams to be ok, at least no one’s complaining any more.
Oh, and constantly changing the juror’s schedule doesn’t help much either by the way… Now that PF3 is almost over, we finally have the schedule for PF3 online.
So I decided that for this PF I’ll take my time, double check everything and try not to make any errors. So it’ll take longer this time. Sorry. Please don’t drive anyone crazy. You’ll be much happier with correct results and previews half an hour later if they’re correct…
So just watch the football finals while waiting…